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like ronald reagan who understand this principle. bill clinton famously said the era of big government is over and the end of wel welfare as we know it. why? because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occupied the oval office in 1962. he spoke of the benefits of cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a creative tax cut creating more jobs and income and eventually more revenue. it will include an across the the board top to bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. the billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer, and our businessmen, will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary and t
. number two, as bill clinton and president obama point out, the math doesn't add up when you're trying to do this just on deductions. you need to do both deductions and loopholes and, of course, raise the rate. that's the only way the math works. and as far as hurt the economy, let me say for the 10,000th time, bill clinton raised tax rates on the top 2% in 1993 and we then proceeded to grow the economy by 23 million jobs. so, that's a bunch of bull, speaker boehner. >> let's go back to alex with the same question. i will argue that even though he hasn't specified the deductions or the loopholes he's going to close, the governor is right, there isn't enough at the top to close to make up for this advantage they have now but it seems he's accepting the moral argument. he's saying, the rich should get socked, too. that was an amazing admission for him to say to that. your thoughts. >> i agree with you. the fact that john boehner is out there saying we are asking the rich to pay more in taxes is not something they ever would have done in 2011. if you remember, math by details in the sitdo
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to what bill clinton have. >> some liberals pushed the president to raise the debt ceiling himself, claiming he has executive power through the 14th amendment. jay carney reveals today the white house studied that, does not believe the president has the power. that means we are headed for another major showdown with congress over the debt ceilin ceiling. >> bret: more with the panel. ed henry, thank you. republicans are losing one of the most conservative voices on capitol hill. south carolina senator jim demint surprised a lot of people today when he announced he is leaving the senate. but staying in washington to run the conservative heritage foundation think tank. he joins us tonight. >> great to be with you. >> bret: why are you doing it? >> if you look at the 2012 election, apparent that the conservatives need to do more to convince americans that ideas will make the lives better. unfortunately in the senate what we have to do is point out bad policy with the president. that is important job. my background is research and marketing to people. to leverage their assets to commun
to get better. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. but that's not the only thing about the health care law that has them worried. a las vegas business owner tells you about another big problem, one you probably haven't heard about before that may be your problem. plus, he's back. who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. wait until you see what he is up to now. you don't want to miss this. it istory of moms, has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we sat up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. kids can get their free picture with santa, and this week make a... all for free. >> greta: what is th
wife perhaps. bill clinton will be in there campaigning. showing he's still got the chops. >> nobody has raised more money i don't think in the history of the planet for the clintons than terry mcauliffe. >> and we have cory booker running -- >> both of these are within easy traveling distance of this desk, which makes it great. >> going to take the train or the car? >> i don't know. the mobile "hardball" mobile. >> is cuccinelli far right? >> cuccinelli is a conservative individual. >> he's a far right guy. thank you. kid get his gun right after conception or not? property rights. anyway, thank you, michael steele and howard fineman. >>> up next, remember that guy who got the romney campaign logo tattooed on his face? he's having a bad case of buyer's remorse. he's thinking about giving back romney. that's ahead, and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to"hardball." now to the "sideshow." vice president joe biden made a surprise visit at the grand opening of washington, d.c.'s, new costco this morning, and he reminds shoppers about the fiscal cliff while he's at it.
boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why does he accuse the president of holding secret negotiations. he's here next. >> many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. that is not the only thing about the health care law that has them worry. a las vegas business owner here to tell you about another problem. it may turn out to be your problem. >> plus, he's back! who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. you don't want to miss this. ♪ ♪ this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. get a droid razr m by motorola for $49.99. ♪ music kids will spend 22 minutes watching us, the super duper party troopers, sing about ants in their pants. brushing for two minutes now, can save your child from severe tooth pain later. two minutes twice a day. t
this because you remember, we went through this with newt. you know, bill clinton would push newt only so far, and then the conservatives in the caucus like myself and matt salmon, steve largent and others would say we're not doing a deal. we will take this place down. we're not doing a deal. and then newt would call bill clinton up and say, you're pushing me too far. you've got to work with me here. the same thing's happening right now with boehner. >> with boehner. >> the republican -- and when you start stripping people of committee -- committee seats, war breaks out and it gets really -- it happened with us. it's about to happen here. he's got to realize that boehner is his partner. >> it feels like we're at a really critical moment here with respect to boehner. and he can choose one of two paths. he could choose the recalcitrant path, which is perfectly possible, or he can say to himself, okay, i need to build a coalition for the purposes of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm ver
are live in michigan. >>> and what is michelle obama and former president bill clinton fighting for? it's a good thing. [ woman ] too weak. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com. ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do >>> scott walker is under fire after endorsing a plan to end same-day voter registration in wisconsin two weeks ago. now he's trying to calm the rumors to convince everyone, it's not a big priority for him. >> it's a ridiculous issue. my priority is about jobs, it's not a part of my legislative priorities. it hasn't been something i've thought about. >> just something he talked about? a ridiculous issue? sorry, i'm not buying that one. because on the same day that he called this a ridiculous issue, two of his buddies in the state house were actively signing up co-sponsors for the bill that would end election day registration. so he can say it's
to bill clinton levels. interesting, on the op ed page of investors business daily today, what they talk about is because the president loves the bill clinton era, forget about the tax rates. how about bringing spending in line with what it was when bill clinton was president of the united states? the last year of the clinton presidency, government expenditures were 18% of gdp. now over the last four years, they've averaged about 25%. so idb says adopt the spending levels and restrain the cost, mr. president. not the tax rates. cut the spending, not the -- >> gretchen: it's kind of like that duh sound on the simpson show. people know this. people know this is what it's going to come down to yet it's this posturing. now headlines, chaos in cairo. president morsi returning to his palace overnight. he took off amid violent protests between police and protests, 100,000. they're outraged over morsi expanding his powers. hello, you elected him -- but the muslim brotherhood calling for its own protests over alleged abuses by the opposition. several tv stations in egypt going back to protest the
're seeing in wall street today is short-term behavior. bill clinton's tax rates, what we're going back to if we go down the fiscal slope, had no negative effect in the economy. in fact the economy was a whole lot better when bill clinton was president than it was under george bush or barack obama. so i think your case is good in the short term, not so good in the long term. i think the best way to restore confidence in wall street in the long term would be to show we're serious about the deficit. i don't think any deal they strike will be as serious about the deficit as this fiscal slope. >> i just think that era, you're right. the economy boomd especially in the mid 1990s and late 1990s. i don't think it did so well a couple years after bill clinton raised taxes. that's one of the reasons 1994 republicans had the biggest election they've had in 100 years. people wanted an end to the kind of liberalism. but the president better put some spending cuts on the table here. because if he doesn't, i just think the whole thing blows up. larry i'm afraid now we are going to see a potential goi
right, we'll shift rates, even not back to the bill clinton tax levels that the republicans say they don't want to go to, but even just back to somewhere close to that. >> but do you think, i mean, if we're talking, you know, preclinton levels, we're talking north of 39%. is there wiggle room between 35% and 39%? couldn't they just say, 37% is right in the middle, 37.5% is right in the middle. >> john boehner is used to cutting deals. he has a conference that doesn't let him do it. the tea party folk have stopped him again and again and again. he made statements in the past where he had to try to round them up very forceinally and not always with great success. enough trade bait out there. the president has been out there taxing dividend income. that's something that failed when the senate tried to do it and obviously trade bait and he didn't campaign on it and he doesn't feel strong about it. >> the escape is something a lot of folks are concerned about. >> he put it out there and it could be adjusted. once you get a range, you could strike it right down the middle. there's plenty to do
they talked about it because president clinton is a political wonk. what bill clinton showed during his presidency is that there's a way to show common ground with republicans who hate you. they impeached bill clinton but made a deal. they made a deal that was nor the right of where most democrats are. this president has a unique opportunity to make a deal for more towards his left. remember dick cheney said to -- speaking of sequels. remember when dick cheney said you got the high approval ratings you can spend them on the iraq war. republicans what they want is the president to spend some of his popularity and put out unpopular ideas for cuts. democrats don't have an incentive to do that. >> big news. stand by. my thanks. in need to pass along this breaking news from across the pond. we're just learning that prince william and kate middleton are expecting. this is news from clarence house. they will be having their first baby. nbc news is working further to confirm this but the rest of the royal family has said to be excited by this news. she was admitted to the hospital this afternoo
%, there's nothing else left to get them the next year. even bill clinton agrees. here's what he said at a conference i saw him at back in may. >> i think you could tax me at 100% and you wouldn't balance the budget. we're all going to have to contribute to this and if middle class people's wages were going up again and we had some growth in the economy, i don't think they would object to going back to the tax rates. >> with no breakthrough today, fiscal cliff negotiations, could this be a starting point? "outfront" republican congressman james lankford of oklahoma, incoming chairman of the republican policy committee, the fifth ranking position in the house gop leadership. appreciate you're taking the time. what about this idea of racinin taxes on everyone? the math works much better. >> i heard your lead in when you said this is a new idea. actually, it's not a new idea, there are several democrats who have floated that for a while. the code word is we want to go back to the clinton tax rates and talk about the clinton economy that we had a much more vigorous economy and growth and
under bill clinton proven just the opposite. in the eight years under george bush proven when you do give tax cuts to the rich, the economy doesn't soar, it sinks. president obama finally part of their campaign yesterday always very clever. obama operation. they came up with a way for all americans to be able to sound off on this issue. he noted that if the tax cuts on the middle class on the 98% do go up, middle class americans will pay $2,000 more in taxes every year. that means $2,000 out of your pocket so the president's asking people to tell members of congress what that -- what you could do with that $2,000. what that $2,000 would mean to you and they're sending -- asking people to send their stories to their member of congress. republican or democrat or to their united states senators and they've done so by coming up with a twitter hash tag. it's hash tag my 2k. president obama announcing it. >> obama: tell members of commerce what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. write
clinton and the president bill clinton i think we met really don't know what they're doing. the vice president should be with the senate right now. that's whht he should be doing, not out shopping or campaigning. this is serious stuff. we are going t raise this year -- this is one thing tt is not being talked about. almost $3 trillion. that will be the most of this government in the history of the republic has ever taken in. $3 trillion. so why the current tax rate revenues increase? why would you go and raise tax rates on businesses and people who are trying to create jobs. most of those are small businesses. lou: and fitting into the top 2%, according toome etimates -- as he talked about the size of the revenue coming in, most of that from income tax, obviously. pple forget that we have seen revenue of the federal government rise by 26% over the past two years. with those bush tacuts in place. with that kind of increase in revenue, spending is without question the problem. >> yes, and to talk about raising taxes right now. at the same time, not talk about health care. we had a gues
the clinton did back in 1992 and you end up with a bill. you have a solid expansion. what do you make up with that argument? >> i hope they do not believe that argument. look, maybe barack obama is right. maybe if you raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no monetary policy, which was great under bill clinton. do not forget that bill clinton did welfare reform. one of the most historic acts over the last 50 years. do not forget that we caught government spending within those years. the problem with obama's proposals is he wants more. this idea that raising tax rates does not hurt the economy because, you can go ahead and spoke three packs of cigarettes a day for the rest of your life because i know somebody who did that and he did not get cancer. stuart: okay. that was very good. [ laughter ] now, i know why you have not been on the show very often. i am at a loss for words when you are d
hillary clinton who is somewhat responsible for the libyan mess. bill clinton is on the list. i would vote for jay-z over the president. no to bill clinton sea brilliant man. why would he be person of the year? for what. you can see we are living in a very shallow time in america. pardon the pun. truth is, we have very few dynamic leaders in this country where is abe lincoln when we need him. like 1860 america is a divided nation there is a culture war raging. we need a person to bring us together to solve complicated problems and stop all the nonsense. lincoln could have done it. republic-- strike that gist and kirsten powers the democrat and fox news analyst. who is your person of the year? >> while using "time" magazine's criteria which doesn't mean it's necessarily a person you think is good or bad or but someone who we spent a lot of time talking about who has a real impact this year i think would be mohammed morsi who is on their list of people to choose from the first democratically elected president of egypt that, i think it was very important moment in the middle east it was an al
the day, he went to saint andrews and played golf with bill clinton and terri mccall mccalliffe. peters that was a little bit more of a high-profile sunday than i had. >> bill: al good return. >> ron kirk, the u.s. trade ambassador. >> bill: a frequent golf partner with the president. >> we are learning more about what mitt romney has been up to including having a non-home-cooked thanksgiving dinner. he ordered in from boston market for the family saying there were too many kids running around to be cooking. >> peter: how the mighty have fallen. >> photographed pumping his gas since he has no entourage to the pump it for him. >> a sad story, nothing to do. >> peter: i don't feel that bad about it. hanging out with his car elevator taking rides. spiritists one of his many homes. >> the author of the hunger games trilogy is taking a break by writing a children's picture book an auto guy graphic piece about coping with her father's military service in vietnam as told through pictures. >> bill: all right, dan, thank you. all of the talk on the sunday s
of young voters as long as it's anti-gay. these are hard questions. bill clinton, and matt is right about this, bill clinton brought the democratic party -- it wasn't a break with its fundamental values but he brought it forward to a place where it could win elections again. it's going to be tougher for the republicans because those folks in the iowa caucuses are going to stand there and say who is the most anti-gay candidate, who is the most anti-immigrate candidate and the person who is is most likely to win the caucuses. >> what clinton did was took on tough issues for the party, crime, welfare, trade, and he repo significanced with a substantive debate. >> indeed. let's hope they can begin by being no longer anti-factual. our thanks to bob and matt. thank you. >> next, mr. boehner and his kurt statement to the white house. does the speaker really speak for anyone anymore? stay with us. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my ph
-american. maryland did it. >> i'm curious why you think president bill clinton since he has the freedom hillary doesn't, why hasn't he apologized for this stain on his record? >> in 2009 before obama, not a very expansive or hugely heartfelt way, said i'm now for marriage equality. again it was not a big statement. i think he feels like i did that, what more do i have to do. i think doma is such a nasty bit of legislation, codified bigotry, it calls for more robust than that. >> the important divergence that frank is identifying between the two democratic presidents. president obama's justice department did make the unusual step of deciding not to defend the constitutionality of doma, typically the justice department defends everything because it is the lawyer of the laws of the land. here they have the discretion to do otherwise. they did otherwise. it makes a difference. as the lower courts and potentially the supreme court, as they look at this, they look to the political branches and now we have the president of the united states, one of the political branches saying this is not constitutional, i
. not in the way you might imagine. michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown" the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. anned former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work" why we need smart government for a strong economy. the returns for this ration will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. heart healthy . step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? house garden and encourages we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bachouse garden we'll be right bac >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made eff
imagine. michelle obama and bill clinton have been nominated for grammy awards. the first lady was nominated in the best spoken word category for the audio version of "american grown," the book that tells the story of the white house garden and encourages healthy eating. and the former president was nominated in the same category for "back to work, why we need smart government for a strong economy." the returns for this race will be on february 10th when we'll find out who won. we'll be right back. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's body as strong as a love that never fades... if he ever lets her leave again. iams. keep love strong. >>> welcome back to "hardball." did republican efforts to suppress the vote backfire this time? in dozens of states they made efforts to keep people, especially minorities and poor people, from getting to the ballot box. they shortened early
president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked into positions that remain far apart? the president's plan called for higher tax rates on the wealthiest americans to the tune of $1.6 trillion over ten years along with the combination of new spending and some spending cuts. mitch mcconnell said he, quote, burst into laughter. still, the white house is making it clear until the republicans counteroffer. >> we didn't say how or how much or who should pay. >> t
as the speaker, with bill clinton. but the second term, they did get stuff done. both of them used to them me, they used to throw everybody out of the room, and get it done. what worries me about the boehner/obama relationship, it seems like it's almost nonexistent. they can't even shake hands at a party, for goodness sake. >> and in many ways, i blame the republicans for not coming up with a real deal, not recognizing what the voters did. at the same time, i think obama has been very, very poor at applying the personal charm and chemistry that the president can. dragging people off to camp david. and we don't know whether or not that would work. but he hasn't tried it. and when a government budget is at stake -- >> larry, they did feel offended by president obama's last offer. they felt it was so outrageous. >> it was outrageous. it was double what they saw last year. it had spending increases, rather than spending cuts. and it wanted to have congress lose its role, in term terms of increasing the debt ceiling. none of that's probably going to happen. and i think to nick's point, it's a good
can tell you, it's not a hard ask, it's a partnership. and actually, as much as bill clinton and newt gingrich loatheds each other at times, they worked together to deal with -- >> on impeachment. >> to deal with republicans like myself on balancing the budget for the first time in a generation, balancing it four years for the first time since the 1920s, paying down the national debt. and you know what? newt gingrich always had to fight us on his right flank, and he and bill clinton sat in the white house and strategized. >> i have a question. >> republican votes for that first clinton budget that set them on the path. >> joe, i've got -- >> hold on. come on, richard. you must have been sleeping or somewhere in britain in '95, '96, '97, '98 and '99 when we balanced the budget for the first time in a generation. >> joe, i have a question for you. let's say boehner goes back to his caucus and says, you know what? from the president's first proposal, i was able to shave off $600 billion in tax hikes. >> right. >> so i saved that. >> by the way, we're going to end up at, like, 1.2, aren't
people, it would clearly have large consequences for him. bill: secretary of state hillary clinton called an emergency meeting with the pentagon. >> the pentagon has contingency plans for everything including the chemical attack. it's believed according to a u.s. source that syria has put this sarin fast into cannisters that could be dropped from planes. these cannisters are designed to fracture so the devastating nerve gas could escape. but it's not known whether syria intends to use those chemical weapons. we think we have it in aerosol form. the u.s. is making contingency plans in case bashar al-asaad leaves the country suddenly and flees somewhere for asylum which would leave a vacuum there. several countries in that region are trying to find a place for assad to go. secretary of state hillary clinton has a just-added meeting today in dublin, ireland. here you see her earlier today. she and the russian minister decided to meet with the envoy to syria. across barbra himybill: russia s discussion in moscow. earlier in a week there was a report it was pulling support away from damascus.
'll be with him in a moment. they say america doesn't have anything to worry about, bill clinton calling everybody out. bill: bob co stas going head-to-head with bill o'reilly about his recent on air attack about gun and a gun culture in america after the murder-suicide of an nfl player and his girlfriend. >> obviously americans have a right to bare arms i'm not looking to repeal the 2nd amendment. i have i have not immersed myself in it all my life. i never called for a probation on guns, never used the words gun control ♪ [ male announcer ] campbell's green bean casserole. it's amazing what soup can do bill: a rescue effort after a deadly accident inside of this water tower in eastern pennsylvania when equipment malfunctioned sending a member of the cleaning crew plummeting to his death inside and left another suspended for hours. the firefighters on the scene taking extra precaution while rescuing that second worker. >> he was talking to us from the one set that's why this was not an immediately 4 rushed operation. we took our time and put all the safety -- as much safety into the system as w
of mine. good friend of bill clinton's played golf with president obama and bill clinton last sunday. versus this extreme radical tea partier, ken cuccinelli who is the todd akin of virginia. man, that's going to be a good challenge. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understand why things have happened. at the end of the show, you know what has happened, why its happened and more importantly, what's going to happen tomorrow. >> announcer: radio meets television. the "bill press show" now on current tv. >> bill: 33 minutes after the hour now. busy day here on the "full court press" this thursday, december 6th. good to you have with us today. don't forget, you can join
for the event taking a picture of herself. here she is and secretary hillary clinton. bill clinton along with others says if there's a movie made about hillary clinton, meryl streep should get the part. >>> next, secretary who? at a u.n. event to benefit people with disabilities, john mccain took on the rumors of who will be the next secretary of state after an introduction from john kerry. >> senator mccain. >> thank you very much, mr. secretary. >> kerry stepped up again after mccain but refused to bite on that one. >> thank you very much, mr. president. this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. >> that was a good line. kerry has been careful to stay clear of the public speculation about whom the president will actually pick to replace hillary clinton. >>> also, arizona governor jan brewer, she's a heavyweight, in a comment about global warming. she doesn't think it's manmade, but her own explanation for climate change is rather lacking. here is what she told a local reporter. >> everybody has an opinion on it, you know, and i probably don't believe it's manmade. i b
rationale? >> it's not just the clinton tax rates. we had a pretty good economy under bill clinton. >> different spending rates, too, back then, governor. >> well, that's right. it's also cuts in defense which we haven't had in 30 years and a cut in human services, which i'd rather not do, but i think everybody needs to something on the table to get what we need to get. it's the best deal for the country. we'll have a recession. the cbo thinks and i agree with this, we'll have 1.3% negative growth for two quarters and we'll go back with a slightly less than 2% growth rate for the entire. we're not going to get out of this without pain. anybody when thinks we'll get through the deficit problem without having to do some sacrificing is wrong. what this does in my view as a democrat is it distributes the burden of the pain fairly, that is, we go back to the clinton tax rates for everybody, not just for rich folks. and we had a good economy under bill clinton. we go back -- we get -- cuts in defense spending which we know is higher than it needs to be and we cut some human services thin
this this morning and you said you need somebody like bill clinton, a former president, and had a big hand in the drug war, to rethink it, and say wrest-- the benefit of time, and what evidence now tells us, john maynard cains will once said famously, when people accused him of changing his views. he said when i get new information i change my views. for bill clinton today to see the ravages of the drug war, it would be a great moment for him to say we are going to join a bun of people together from the grover norket of the ail and the other. how do we look at the model of a country like portugal and see there are tremendous lessons. you need to see the british and others join them and say there is a commonly-- a common passion in the world to see this go better. this is a global disaster of which america is the engine. but america can make the first major step and should and there's a legacy moment for obama in doing so. >> rose: thank you. i guess what's interesting about your last point to me is we need examples of what people from different and diverse experiences and political affilia
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